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Jeffrey Gundlach: Powell's Relaxed Aura Overshadows Tough Talk

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  • The market could get overvalued in a couple of months, Gundlach cautioned.
  • The investor noted that the Fed chairman used the word disinflation in his remarks Wednesday.

Investors were relieved to see Fed Chairman Jerome Powell’s relaxed demeanor Wednesday even as he talked tough and indicated the central bank needs to keep raising rates to control inflation, according to billionaire investor Jeffrey Gundlach.

The DoubleLine Capital CEO, chief investment officer and founder also cautioned that the market, which has rallied in recent weeks, could become overvalued in about two months.

Gundlach discussed the market’s reaction to Powell on CNBC’s “Closing Bell: Overtime” shortly after the Fed raised its benchmark interest rate by a quarter percentage point and the chairman spoke with reporters.

“There was just something about his demeanor after he read the statement, he just seems like he has confidence … and he feels comfortable in where he’s gotten to. And I think that everybody kind of sensed that. And he obviously did not fight back against market pricing,” Gundlach said.

The Fed made its eighth consecutive rate hike since March, slowing its pace from more aggressive increases in recent months as it set a 4.5% to 4.75% target for the federal funds rate. The S&P 500 closed up more than 1% Wednesday after the Fed news and climbed nearly 2% Thursday.

“I thought that his demeanor was really the key thing,” Gundlach said, noting that in a speech in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, last August about the central bank’s aim to wrestle inflation back to 2%, Powell “comes out like Apollo Creed predicting pain for the economy and lots of unpleasant outcomes as a consequence of the need to catch up on raising rates. And I didn’t hear the word ‘pain’ at all today.”

One reason for Powell’s confidence now is that he knows inflation, represented in the Consumer Price Index, is coming down, according to Gundlach. “He knows that the CPI’s coming down and he’s using the word disinflation,” he said, noting that if current trends continue, the June inflation data that will be released in July could show 2.5% headline CPI growth.

“The real question mark is going to be when will the market start worrying about inflation in the second half of this year? Because it’s quite possible that the inflation rate does go back up towards 4% in the second half,” Gundlach added.

The economy won’t get a bad inflation surprise before the next Fed meeting, and Powell “was feeling pretty relaxed, and the markets liked that,” he said.

Powell had an “aura of relaxation and yet he did still talk tough, ‘Job’s not done, job’s not done, we have to raise rates more, we’re not going to stop, we can’t stop too early,’ but for some reason the mood sort of trumped and that rhetoric just didn’t seem to have the teeth, or the intensity, that he had last fall, and I think the market was relieved to see that,” Gundlach said.

After heavy selling last year related to tax-loss harvesting, investors are buying things back now, Gundlach said, noting that the S&P 500, emerging market equities and long Treasurys are all up significantly this year.

“Unfortunately, I think that we’ve gotten a lot of return already for the first part of this year and as we move forward a couple of months, I think we’re going to start getting overvalued,” he said, citing an inflation narrative that’s supportive of markets.


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