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Dick Bove: What Really Sparked the Bank Turmoil, and Where It's Headed

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Depositors and investors lost patience with U.S. banks even before the recent Silicon Valley Bank and Signature Bank failures, Dick Bove, chief financial strategist at Odeon Capital Group, suggested in a recent interview.

“Basically I think over the past year the banking industry in the United States lost the confidence of the American public,” Bove told ThinkAdvisor on Monday, although he consider U.S. banking to be on solid footing. 

“In the case of the depositor it’s pretty simple to understand” — as interest rates rose, they continued to earn a pittance on their savings even as banks enjoyed a windfall.

“The way the depositors showed their unhappiness was they started taking their money out of the banks,” pulling out more than $1 trillion in the past year, Bove added.

The banks panicked and started sharing higher rates with big-ticket depositors, but 6% of deposits in the banking industry “walked out the door,” he said.

Key politicians used to make banks explain when they kept all the profits to themselves, Bove explained. “I’m surprised that no politician today even cares about it,” he said.

Investors, meanwhile, felt they couldn’t trust banks’ earnings statements and got fed up, Bove said. Banks’ accounting methods, while legal, didn’t reflect that the bonds they owned had lost value as interest rates climbed, he explained.

“Banks basically created fictional numbers” to show higher returns on investments than they were actually getting.

Rather than engaging in big stock buybacks over the past few years, banks could have funded $3.2 billion in loans and generated robust income, he added.

“You set the stage for disaster” when depositors and investors are unhappy, he added, although Bove offered assurances that the U.S. banking sector is sound.

The strategist shared several other insights about the current banking landscape.

Don’t Worry

“U.S. banks earned $330 billion last year and they’re not in trouble,” Bove said.

If the Federal Reserve has money from the banking system, and banks put excess deposits into the banks without adequate deposits, as they do, it’s hard to cherry-pick banks at risk of going under, he said. 

U.S. banks recently deposited $440 billion at the Fed — as a loan — to lend to troubled banks and pay off some Fed debt, he said.

As Bove explained, if everyone took all their money from a Texas bank and deposited it into New York banks, the New York banks would lend it to the Texas bank so it wouldn’t go under.

Silicon Valley Bank is essentially gone and will be split up and sold. But First Republic, which received a $30 billion cash infusion from several larger banks to help stabilize it following SVB’s collapse, is “actually a good bank,” Bove said. He expects someone will acquire First Republic, which has a sizable wealth management business.

“No one is saying that these loans are no good,” he added. If Americans are paying back loans then there’s plenty of money available to pay interest on deposits, “so there’s no reason to take the deposits out,” he said.

(JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon is leading an effort to help First Republic, The Wall Street Journal reported Tuesday. Sources told CNBC that First Republic is considering options,  including a possible sale and a capital raise. Reuters reported the bank may consider selling some loans to others to help raise cash.)

Don’t Yell ‘Fire’

Bove faulted the Fed and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. for not taking steps to keep people from spreading rumors that a bank may be in trouble.

“It’s just unbelievable that they’re not saying anything,” he said.

As others have, Bove compared saying a bank is insolvent and suggesting depositors take their money out to yelling “fire” in a crowded theater. That bank may be funding mortgages, businesses, cars and student loans and holding deposits, and “you’re driving that bank out of business,” Bove said. “What happens to that community?”

While he noted he wasn’t accusing anyone specific of doing this, Bove said, “It is now possible for investment groups to short the stock in a bank, create a rumor that the bank is insolvent and drive it out of business and walk away with a huge profit on the shorts. … The government is allowing it to happen.”

“What is very upsetting” is that FDIC and the Fed could address this, he said.

(As various news outlets have reported, before its collapse, some venture capital firms advised their portfolio companies to pull their money from cash-strapped SVB. The bank failed and federal authorities stepped in to make depositors whole.)

Swiss Miss

Bove criticized the deal overseen by Swiss regulators to force UBS to acquire troubled Credit Suisse.

“I think it’s outrageous,” he said. “I think the Swiss National Bank is going to be sued; I think the two companies are going to be sued. What was done there is just totally wrong. You can’t take money away from the bondholder while you’re giving money to the stockholder.”

Normally in bankruptcies, bondholders take precedence and if there’s any money left, it goes to stockholders, Bove noted.

 “They just killed bank bonds in Europe. I mean you can’t do this,” he said. Other countries in Europe will agree and complain that the deal has destroyed their banks’ ability to raise AT1 bond money, Bove said.

Bondholders said Tuesday they were considering legal action, CNBC reported.

Bad Earnings Year Ahead

The bank failures are likely the start of a year with “really bad earnings for banks,” Bove said. “You can’t keep having these declines in the value of your securities and keep hiding it.” 

He predicted government will come down on bank accounting and the institutions will have to change their policies. Banks’ equity declined in real terms and they’ll have to reflect that on their balance sheets, and when they do the government will say they don’t have enough common equity and require them to sell stock, he said.

“That will hurt banks,” he said, noting that banks and investors like buybacks. “I don’t think there’s any way to escape it.”

Possible Recession

“We’re looking at a possible recession because of this,” as reduced liquidity in the banking system will make it harder to get mortgages, Bove said.

Making money in bank stocks will be harder in an environment with slow economic growth and bank earnings, the strategist said.

Investment Picks

“The advice that I’m giving people is don’t buy the bank common stocks, buy the bank preferred stocks,” which provide 6% or 7% yield and won’t miss dividend payments, Bove said. “It’s  a wonderful opportunity to buy these preferreds at good yields.”

A year from now when the situation has settled and earnings are set to grow, then investors can buy bank common stock, Bove added. On the other hand, if investors already own bank common shares, there’s no need to rush and sell, he said.

As for other market sectors, Bove’s firm likes defense, natural resources, manufacturing and food stocks.

“Those companies are going to outperform in the market and the banks are not going to outperform,” he predicted.

Withdrawing Is Easy

Bank runs are easier now that people can withdraw large sums of money in a few minutes with an iPhone, according to Bove.

(Depositors withdrew $42 billion from SVB on one day, Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., noted.)

When money was paper or a mineral, depositors physically couldn’t do that, Bove noted. Today someone can set off a run and technology makes it easy for frightened and unhappy depostors to move their money, he said.

Poor Risk Management

People believe SVB was at fault because it put so much money into long-term Treasurys, Bove noted. “There’s no good answer for that” except the Fed does the same, he said.

“The bank screwed up in terms of its risk management and it no longer exists because of that,” Bove said.


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