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An Asset Manager's Key to Boosting After-Tax Wealth

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For after-tax wealth, build portfolios with downside risk management, says Frank Pape, director of strategies at Frontier Asset Management, in an interview with ThinkAdvisor.

“If advisors aren’t focusing on after-tax returns, they’re missing the boat in doing the right thing for their clients,” said Pape, a CPA and chartered financial analyst who won a 2023 ThinkAdvisor LUMINARIES award in the category of thought leadership.

Frontier, based in Sheridan, Wyoming, manages risk-management strategies for financial advisors’ clients nationwide.

In the interview, Pape explains some of his tax strategies that go into building portfolios, including one, just launched, aimed at high-net-worth investors.

Not the least point he makes is Frontier’s clear way of defining risk: “risk of loss.”

Lose the “standard deviation” version, Pape recommends, adding that clients “don’t know what standard deviation means.”

In the interview, he also unpacks Frontier’s method of managing risk through “Dynamic Downside” and “FundFusion” for maximizing returns.

Here are highlights of our conversation:

THINKADVISOR: Have tax and estate planning become more important to the wealth management industry?

FRANK PAPE: Without a doubt. Think of all the assets out there in motion, [especially] those that are being passed between families. 

What’s critical for advisors to know?

If advisors aren’t focusing on after-tax returns, they’re missing the boat in doing the right thing for their clients. 

What’s the main goal at your firm, Frontier Asset Management?

To help advisors focus on how to define success.

Often I see advisors always focusing on pretax returns. If you have a taxable account, by definition you’re paying taxes on that, and you should try to look at the after-tax return strategy.

Financial advisors usually don’t do tax return preparation or give specific tax advice. Right?

Most advisors don’t, but a good advisor should have an investment process that’s different for taxable and for non-taxable accounts. 

Ten years ago that might have been switching taxable bonds for muni bonds. Today it’s different. It can be [through] asset allocation. It can be tax-loss harvesting or different funds.

Frontier’s website emphasizes: “Strategies designed to maximize after-tax return while minimizing downside risk.” Is that the firm’s focus?

Yes. It’s for all our strategies. The starting point is downside risk management.

So do you build portfolios based on certain tax strategies?

Yes. If you say that you want to lose no more than 10% over a 12-month period, we design a strategy trying to protect the downside and maximizing return over those 12 months.

We don’t have proprietary products. We put third-party products in our strategies.

Please explain what you call “Dynamic Downside” and “FundFusion.” 

Because we’re trying to manage the risk, we’ll dynamically change our asset allocation through time. For example, we might have more in equities or less in equities.

Many strategies out there are almost “set it, forget it,” like it’s always 60/40. We can do 50/50, 40/60, 60/40. We dynamically manage the downside target and seek to maximize returns from there.

Every month we update our cap market forecast and asset allocations. 

What about FundFusion?

It’s an optimization process we have that tries to pick a combination of active mutual funds, passive mutual funds, active ETFs, passive ETFs — whatever has our optimal return pattern — to give us that downside target and attractive returns.

Please highlight one particular strategy.

We have a series of tax-managed strategies that, depending on the risk tolerance of the investor, might be minus 5%, 10% or a 15% drawdown. We try to maximize the return for the level of downside risk. 

To what do you attribute Frontier’s growth?

The idea of how we define risk is different.  

We publish after-tax returns and do a series of [moves] to increase that all year long, not just one or two times during the year.

What’s your different way of defining risk, then?

We define risk as risk of loss. For instance, over a 12-month period, a [specific] portfolio would be designed to lose no more than 10%.

[In contrast], often [firms] say, “We have a standard deviation of minus 15% or 10%.” [Clients] don’t know what “standard deviation” means.

What’s new from Frontier?

At the [start] of this year we launched a unified managed account strategy that combines mutual funds, ETFs and separate accounts into one vehicle. 

We believe there’s appetite and demand for that from higher-net-worth investors.

What industry trends are you capitalizing on? And which trends should advisors be taking advantage of?

Open architecture is really important and key to advisors going forward. 

If you’re beholden to one fund family or one fund family’s list of ETFs, you’re subject to groupthink or one school of thought.

We [work with] any big shop, small shop, ETFs, active funds [and others].

Are the S&P 500 index and mega-cap stocks overvalued right now?

Not overvalued, but there’s way too much concentration of top names. One of the biggest risks in portfolios is that people don’t appreciate how much it’s driven by seven or 10 names. 

Underappreciated risks are the ones that get you!

Is it time, then, to take cover?

It’s always time to be risk-focused and manage risk accordingly. 

It’s always time to be aware of the risk in the portfolio, measure those risks and not have underappreciated risks. 

What concerns you about the market today?

One thing is the common belief that interest rates are coming down “tomorrow.” Entering the new year, the market was already factoring in a rate cut. That’s been pushed back now.

Rates could still stay higher for longer than people think.

What are the implications to bond investing?

Right now, you can get attractive yields on the short end of the curve, really attractive returns.

You should have allocations of short durations. Many people wanted long durations, and now rates are coming down. 

They thought it was an easy play. I don’t know if that’s such a sure thing.


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