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Jeremy Grantham, co-founder and chief investment strategist of GMO

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Jeremy Grantham Warns Investors to 'Be Quite Careful' as Big Risks Loom

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Against a backdrop of what Jeremy Grantham, co-founder and long-term investment strategist of Grantham, Mayo, Van Otterloo & Co., forecasts for the United States in 2024 as disappointing profits, a weakening economy, a mild recession — at least — and a tough year for the stock market, his chief advice is: “Avoid U.S. stocks.” 

That’s what he tells ThinkAdvisor in a recent interview, although he also talks about opportunities. For the perennially bearish investor, those include Japan and emerging markets. In the United States, Grantham points to quality — “The most important inefficiency in the U.S. market,” he says — climate change, resources and ultra-cheap equities.

The first exchange-traded fund at GMO, the Boston-based asset management firm, was launched in November. The actively managed GMO U.S. Quality ETF (QLTY) focuses on high-quality stocks.

In the recent interview, Grantham also offers his long-term outlook for artificial intelligence.

“What I specialize in other than bubbles are long-term, underrated negatives,” he says. “And my God, there’s a rich collection of negatives right now.”

Here are highlights of our conversation:

THINKADVISOR: What are your top predictions for the economy and stock market in 2024?

The negatives I’ve been talking about for a year or two are still coming down the pipelines. Most of them will eventually occur.

The economy will get weaker. We’ll have, at least, a mild recession. Profits will be disappointing. The stock market will have a tough year.

How should financial advisors prepare their clients for all that?

If you want commercial advice, financial advisors should always be madly bullish! That’s clearly the best way for them to run a business.

If it’s your own money, however, I should be quite careful.

What specifically do you think will occur in the stock market this year?

Returns on U.S. stocks will be disappointing. Returns on non-U.S. stocks probably will be fairly close to normal.

I would avoid U.S. stocks. They’re almost ridiculously higher priced than the rest of the world — about as big a gap as there has ever been.

And the profit margins are about as high as they have ever been compared to the rest of the world.

That’s potentially double jeopardy because they can reverse either separately or together.

What non-U.S. stock sectors do you like?

Japan, which could be perfectly reasonable. Emerging markets are very cheap in comparison to the U.S.

Are there any opportunities at all in U.S. stocks?

If you have to [invest] a lot of money in the U.S, these are the places to [go]: quality, climate change, resources and ultra-cheap stocks.

Quality is always a good idea because it’s very dependable in a bear market. Quality is the most important inefficiency in the U.S. market.

Triple-A stocks have always been mispriced, but they have outperformed. And they’ve done particularly well over the last year.

Why?

Because they’re boring. In a bull market, you want to own the Magnificent 7 stocks [Alphabet, Amazon, Apple, Meta, Microsoft, Nvidia and Tesla], not high-quality stocks because they seem too boring.

But in a bear market, their very boringness is an attractive feature.

Why do you like the climate change category?

Because it’s been beaten on the head and is now very cheap and because [virtually] every country in the world is finally beginning to recognize that this is serious, and the incentive programs everywhere are getting behind climate change. 

And why are you positive on resources?

They’re always unpopular and cheap. We have to buy them when they’ve been hammered, and they have just been hammered on a relative basis.

Also, I like the ultra-cheap companies because the gap between the cheap and the expensive is about as wide as it ever gets.

Are you still focused on that superbubble you detected in 2020?

It broke in a very convincing way in 2022. It was in slow deflation in 2021, when it was rudely interrupted by the introduction of artificial intelligence, which changed the flight path of the entire stock market.

AI barged into the old bubble. Typically, that one would have gone deeper for another 20% or 30% decline.

But ChatGPT set off bubbles, with the Magnificent 7 soaring upwards and leaving the market way behind.

Most of the gains were carried by a couple of handfuls of stocks with a claim on AI. 

It’s only in the last few weeks that the rest of the market got tickled and teased into participating somewhat.

Broadly, what’s your take on artificial intelligence?

AI isn’t a hoax, as bitcoin basically is. It has enormous long-term implications. Nevertheless, the typical pattern of something important and new is that it goes up far too quickly, has a bubble, then regroups and becomes very serious for a long time, like the internet.

I think the same will happen with AI: a burst of incredible euphoria, which it’s having, and drag quite a lot of things with it for a while.

Then it will burst — the AI bubble has a limited life span — and settle down to become, over the next 20 or 30 years, something as important, maybe, as anything we’ve ever seen. 

I suspect this bubble will turn out to be an interesting historical artifact and that we’ll go back to more reasonable levels.

The stock market set a record last week. Was that a red flag?

There’s an iron law: If you pay a lot for an asset, you get a lower return. That certainly applies today.

The S&P [wasn’t] at a new high adjusted for inflation. 

What effects will the wars that are being fought now have on the stock market?

Wars have a history of not impacting the market as much as we think.

But war helps create a geopolitical environment that’s scary as hell and in which bad things can happen.

So it makes me nervous, and to have [them] and [especially], coincident with the market selling at record prices.

What else unnerves you?

China and Russia are acting somewhat dangerously, with their relationships with the U.S. looking frayed and the prospect of [Donald] Trump taking a position that’s pro-Russian and being lukewarm behind NATO.

There’s lots to be scared about.

Pictured: GMO co-founder Jeremy Grantham. Credit: Bloomberg  


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