Gundlach: 75% Odds of Recession Next Year

DoubleLine Capital CEO and Chief Investment Officer Jeffrey Gundlach sees a 75% chance for a recession in 2023 and thinks the Federal Reserve needs to slow its interest-rate hikes.

Gundlach, speaking on CNBC’s Closing Bell Overtime after the Fed announced another 75-basis-point rate increase Wednesday, cited several recessionary signals in the market and in Fed Chairman Jerome Powell’s comments that day.

“I think they should slow down because … monetary policy has lags that are long and variable, but we’ve been tightening now for a while and the impact of these tightenings is going to accumulate into a recession,” Gundlach said, noting he thought the central bank should have done more earlier.

The strategist said he was surprised the stock market rallied during the Fed press conference, adding that he expects risk assets to remain under pressure.

Citing the Fed’s signal that it may raise the benchmark interest rate another 125 basis points this year to about 4.25%, Gundlach said, “I don’t think they’re going to be able to pull that off. I think the economy is going to be showing signs of weakening,” with unemployment rising.

”I do think we’re headed to a recession and I think the Fed should have paced this differently but now they’re so committed to this 2%, that I think the odds of a recession in 2023 are very high. I mean I would put them at 75%,” he said. (Powell noted the Fed’s strong commitment to achieving a 2% interest rate.)

Gundlach cited various recessionary signals, noting, for example, that Powell said the Fed expects unemployment to end the year at 4.4%.

“Well, a very strong indicator of recession is when the unemployment rate crosses its 12-month moving average, and the unemployment rate is at 3.7% and its 12-month moving average is at 4.07% right now,” he said. “So if the Fed is right and the unemployment rate rises to 4.4% by the year end, that will be a corroborative indicator of recession.”